Originally posted by gakm7:And honestly, Fate just isn't that good of a game because of it's balancing flaws between the character types, among other things.

Grim Dawn doesn't have any of these problems and is a well balanced game for it's very ideal level of complexity. TL2 is quite a bit better, but still has it's own problems like having one specific build for each class that is leaps and bounds better than the rest (and how limited you are with your build theorycrafting). I'm fully aware that Grim Dawn is much more similar to D2 and PoE, and that TL on the other hand is much more similar to D3 and Fate, but all ARPG's are going to be compared to each other (at least in a general sense) because they all have a core set of basic similarities and game functionality.Īnd honestly, Fate just isn't that good of a game because of it's balancing flaws between the character types, among other things. Then you have the whole, whom ripped off whom story. theme - cartoonish/save town/narrator etc. character building is similar on base stats

fishing, and fishing loot (you found a Clown Fish) With Fate and Torchlight they both are thematically very similar, both have the same system of: They both are RPGs and that's about the end of the similarity. I know you like Grim Dawn, as do I, but what a leap. Originally posted by gakm7:Then one can do the same thing between TL and Grim Dawn, and I'd say that Grim Dawn is a way better game than TL in terms of, well, everything basically.

Torchlight 3 vs diablo 3